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MAN VS. WOMAN

2/16/2017

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I've heard a lot of people over the years utter the same misconception; that woman is a combination of womb and man. This is in fact incorrect. Woman does not have sexist undertones; the origins are in fact platonic. The word originally was wimman, which meant "adult female". Going further back, this was the infamous word wifman, also the direct origin of the word "wife", after a dropping of -man. Wifman is a combination of two words; that being wif, "female" and man, meaning "human". Yes, man used to be a gender neutral word meaning "person" and still exists today in reference to all of humankind, and also as a male, a term which developed later. Man is from the reconstructed Proto-Germanic word manwaz, which stems from the Proto-Indo-European root man, also referring to "people". As such a ubiquitous term, man has altered very little over time.  Wif as a prefix for wifman also traces back to Proto-Germanic and the word wiban, still referring to a female. Though the origin for this is uncertain, but it has been theorized to come from several (theorized) PIE words, the two most common theories being that it came from a word meaning "female genitalia" and that it came from an early word for "shame". If the latter is true, the word is sexist, but not in the way most people think. Really, woman means "female human".
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Ken Bone
2/16/2017 02:49:02 pm

Can you do a post on the words that changed the least since proto-indo-european? That'd be really interesting.

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Adam
7/8/2017 05:49:05 am

If you go to my infographics page, you can see "How Household Nouns Changed Over Time", which shows amount of alteration.

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Aric wilson
8/28/2019 06:38:19 pm

I agree with this, and people has changed terms and their meanings overtime.. but again to make strong argument about genders, we are all females both soul and cell wise.. the vigina change into a penis.. the human man with the penis is the counter part of the human female.. like the word husband is actually house band.. these are metaphysical terms that was use while ago.. even God is a woman.. the planets are womb and the sun is the mind.. but it’s still a female or wombman or whatever..

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Racquel
3/12/2021 06:18:08 pm

Wow, I’ll love to chat with you more. This comment is on point. Thanks

Bob
1/2/2022 09:29:01 pm

Sounds like you are talking about a combination of different history.

Hephzibah
5/13/2019 12:36:11 am

Thank you for this article. Do you have an article on female?

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JONATHAN L MUELLER
7/5/2019 01:40:56 pm

So what was the prefix to "man" that meant " adult male"?

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Adam Aleksic link
7/16/2019 08:27:53 pm

Old English "wer"

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Patrik
5/4/2020 03:07:23 am

I thought that was a myth? Do you have anything to back it up?
I don't see how woman can't have sexist undertones, as the author claims. If they were equal we would have a male version, but as far as I know there hasn't been?

Mike Keeling
6/26/2020 09:50:19 am

Not a myth at all: 'Were' still exists in modern English as 'werewolf, ie man-wolf.

'Man/men' in Old English simply meant human being(s) - so you had Weremen and Wifmen, male human being and female human being.

An alternative for 'were-' was 'waep-', meaning weapon.

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CATHY
9/10/2020 06:47:43 am

This is very helpful. It strengthens my view that the word "chairman" is gender neutral in that it means "the human who chairs the meeting." Some argue that "chairperson" is more gender neutral, but sooner or later someone will also object to that word because it has "son" on the end!

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water
10/5/2021 10:06:33 pm

How does "womb-man" have sexist undertones, if as your paragraph even admits, the word "man" originally referred to people. And while i'm here, the word "fe-male" is again reaffirming the idea of femininity juxtaposed onto the male root.

Obviously, i'm not well informed on this topic. And yes, i am one of those who has always assumed that the word "woman" was implicative of a womb-man; Now that I have learned "man" actually means person, i'm inclined moreso than ever to maintain my theory.

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Patrik
10/21/2021 10:20:10 am

But the problem for if the word is problematic or not is not because of its etymology. There are many words I don't want to write in this forum that have completely harmless and sometimes counteracting etymologies. So what if man used to mean human, it doesn't anymore, it means male person, because this is the most basic form of human we have in most of our modern society. Everything else, even being female, is considered attributes; i.e "sad man", "homosexual man", "short man" and as I still believe: "woman". Being female is considered to be an attribute to the human being.

This might be a stretch in the metaphysical aspect, but in culture it is definitely true for most part.

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Julia
6/7/2022 01:55:20 am

The most plainly stated malevolent sexism I have ever heard in my life. Wow. Men really think they came first and are the ‘basic human’ and being women is an attribute of a man. Wow. That is horrifying. I wish I was born about 200 years in the future where male-men/manmen are more intelligent. Thankfully I have a good one next to me I am married to as far as two weeks ago at the courthouse. As far as men like this? I cannot believe the logic is still so absolutely elementary about women. It’s stupefying and a blood-curling horror every day to witness men like this that think this way. It’s blood-curling. So, by that same logic, white men are the default men since that is the neutral color of skin and being yellow, brown or black is an attributable tone to the default skin. How nightmarishly horrifying these men are. My intellectual property is shriveling into my vagina due to it not being a penis and staying outside of my non-default body. Eugenics, anyone? Blood-born levels of implied sexism, anyone? Does everyone remember that humans aren’t born out of ribs or do we need a basic biology lesson for the incels in the back.

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Toni
2/9/2023 06:45:10 am

It's pointless to argue back from the appearance of the word to some philosophical meaning underpinning the supposed true meaning of the word. Especially if the word is totally contingent and disconnected from that meaning in it's origin.

Let me use an example. As a student of history reading some text by a feminist historian I was amused to find that the person found the term "history" to be offensive, because according to her it was a mixture of the words "his story", meaning that history has previously been a conglomeration of the deeds of males. Which is a fair enough point, but apparently she was unaware that the word actually comes from the ancient Greek "historia" and originally meant to study or inquire. If you're going by just how the word looks and not how the word was born, you'd be just as good to argue that actually the word "history" comes from "hystera", meaning the womb in ancient Greek. I suppose the word "palace" has something to do with laces then?

I'll end with a quote from Wittgenstein:
“Our language can be seen as an ancient city: a maze of little streets and squares, of old and new houses, and of houses with additions from various periods; and this surrounded by a multitude of new boroughs with straight regular streets and uniform houses.”

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